Venomire: 4e isn't terrible, it's just different. Nothing says you must play it, and while I know that people posting here realize it, many tend to forget that.
pitycrit: i'm not playing your shitty wow tabletop clone what i lament is that anything i produce relating to the game is no longer relevant to the general player base because wizards made some poisonous design decisions because they think copying wow and catering to the lowest common denominator will make for the best game experience for the most people, and as long as they pour the money into marketing and high production value the user base will buy their schlock, enjoy your twenty round combats played with official hasbro miniatures you weak brained porcino-capitalist chimp
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